Its amazing what context can do, after 8 games last season, we were actually 2 points worse off than this season I believe and the fall out after losing to chorley away was probably the same. I agree its a bit deflating at the moment because we can all see where the problem lies, however I don't really blame the strikers as much as others. They don't get service, you can't score goals if you don't get service and when they do get a half chance, they snatch at it because they've been starved of chances all game.
The thing is I'm happy with is that Murrary can see that, have we got budget to make changes, who knows.
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I think that's the problem. There's not only a scoring goals/striker issue, but also a creating chances issue. Those two combined require at least two new top level signings. There may also be a pace at the back problem too. By this time last season I'd seen a lot to be excited by/great football, I can't say that this time.Robbo wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 10:35 am Its amazing what context can do, after 8 games last season, we were actually 2 points worse off than this season I believe and the fall out after losing to chorley away was probably the same. I agree its a bit deflating at the moment because we can all see where the problem lies, however I don't really blame the strikers as much as others. They don't get service, you can't score goals if you don't get service and when they do get a half chance, they snatch at it because they've been starved of chances all game.
The thing is I'm happy with is that Murrary can see that, have we got budget to make changes, who knows.
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Harrier1994
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If Murray can't see the system isn't working that makes me worried, I get trying to give it time to gel but 9 games we have only scored more than once in 1 game.
If he wants to carry on with a back 3 we have to go for more of a 352. Willoughby on the wing makes no sense and it's a waste. This is what I want to see against Buxton
GK no sure with the Dibble suspension
Obi Tunnicliffe Bird
Foulkes Reynolds Davis Spokes Devine (walker or Innocent if Devine is injured)
TSS/AMS Willoughby
We need to keep a settled defence, I'm okay with changing the midfield or attack but for me you need a settled and consistent defence..
I saw the back 3 for yesterday and was worried, Innocent got bullied he is definitely not a Richards replacement for a LCB and I personally don't think Bird is the best as the central CB. Tunnicliffe has been the most comfortable there but Obi is the standout for me, seems to be in the right place and is very composed, a bit unorthodox sure but so far for me he's been our best defender.
And a final word for Foulkes who is by far our best player, we'll be lucky to keep him.
If he wants to carry on with a back 3 we have to go for more of a 352. Willoughby on the wing makes no sense and it's a waste. This is what I want to see against Buxton
GK no sure with the Dibble suspension
Obi Tunnicliffe Bird
Foulkes Reynolds Davis Spokes Devine (walker or Innocent if Devine is injured)
TSS/AMS Willoughby
We need to keep a settled defence, I'm okay with changing the midfield or attack but for me you need a settled and consistent defence..
I saw the back 3 for yesterday and was worried, Innocent got bullied he is definitely not a Richards replacement for a LCB and I personally don't think Bird is the best as the central CB. Tunnicliffe has been the most comfortable there but Obi is the standout for me, seems to be in the right place and is very composed, a bit unorthodox sure but so far for me he's been our best defender.
And a final word for Foulkes who is by far our best player, we'll be lucky to keep him.
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Yesterday was the same systemKrasnyi wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:17 pm That would be my starting XI too. Davis should start every week and should be made captain.
We didn’t really play Willoughby out wide yesterday did we? Tell me we didn’t.
Dibble
Foulkes Obi Bird Innocent Devine
Spokes Kandola
Willoughby AMS Adigun
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I don’t think Innocent has missed a minute of play since he landed. AM obviously rates him very highly. It’s hard not to make comparisons to Caleb. I know which one I’d choose at the moment and it’s not even close. Still, it’s early days I guess.
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Should be just the one game for Dibble.
For a so-called professional foul, a player will receive a one-match ban. If the foul in question is dissent, it will normally be a two-match ban. If we are talking about violent conduct, the punishment is normally a three-match ban.
I rate both.Mirage Molby wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:45 pm I don’t think Innocent has missed a minute of play since he landed. AM obviously rates him very highly. It’s hard not to make comparisons to Caleb. I know which one I’d choose at the moment and it’s not even close. Still, it’s early days I guess.
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I've decided to hold on to my thoughts for the best part of 24 hours, see how it felt on a new day.
I'd only seen the Oxford City game before yesterday - and yesterday's performance was a vast improvement on that night.
To be honest, I agree with Murray about the officials. We got nothing all day, every 50-50 went to Telford, and I can understand why he's aggrieved about their third goal (both playing on so they could score when time was up and the fact at first glance it looked offside - is need to see a replay). The amount of corners we won that were given as goal kicks to Telford - it's impossible to maintain any rhythm or momentum. If Willoughby's goal after 70 seconds is inside then that's scandalous - totally changed the game as Telford parked the bus first half and they wouldn't have been able to do that has the goal stood. I'd need to see the red card again as it looked like Dibble had his arms by his side (but he has got to stop wandering...)
A Telford fan I know at the game said he thought the officials had a shocker and that we had every right to feel aggrieved, so I'm not seeing things through red-tinted glasses.
However... You can't play for 60 minutes and expect to be successful. The aforementioned Telford fan said he thought we were going to wipe the floor with them based on the first half hour. I phoned my Dad at half time and confidently said if we carried on in the same vein they would crack. But we didn't - it went back to hoofing down the channels, losing duels, giving the ball away as soon as we won it back.
I don't like the three at the back. It only takes one if the centre backs to be beaten and our whole back line is stretched. Playing such a high line without much pace at the back? Asking for it. Murray reckons the data shows we're one of the best sides in the league defensively? Evidence of one's eyes suggests otherwise.
I do agree with Murray that there were lots of positive signs. Kandola and Spokes ran the show in midfield first half. Willoughby played well. Adigun had a decent first hour but wilted later on - the second goal doesn't happen if he doesn't get beaten so easily down our left.
You can see we are still frustratingly a work in progress. Tellingly, I don't think there's one Telford player that would have made it into our starting XI yesterday. But they were tactically smarter than us, and based on the second half we could have no complaints - Dibble had to make three or four very good saves or it could have been worse. We remain naive.
One thing no-one has mentioned was the stadium announcement second half. If one of the Burberry gang behind the goal did shout something homophobic at their keeper then that's really poor (as was the "We're Kiddy Harriers, well sing what we want" chant that followed). On a day Hereford's game got abandoned for racist abuse which could see them chucked out of the competition, we just don't need it.
I'd only seen the Oxford City game before yesterday - and yesterday's performance was a vast improvement on that night.
To be honest, I agree with Murray about the officials. We got nothing all day, every 50-50 went to Telford, and I can understand why he's aggrieved about their third goal (both playing on so they could score when time was up and the fact at first glance it looked offside - is need to see a replay). The amount of corners we won that were given as goal kicks to Telford - it's impossible to maintain any rhythm or momentum. If Willoughby's goal after 70 seconds is inside then that's scandalous - totally changed the game as Telford parked the bus first half and they wouldn't have been able to do that has the goal stood. I'd need to see the red card again as it looked like Dibble had his arms by his side (but he has got to stop wandering...)
A Telford fan I know at the game said he thought the officials had a shocker and that we had every right to feel aggrieved, so I'm not seeing things through red-tinted glasses.
However... You can't play for 60 minutes and expect to be successful. The aforementioned Telford fan said he thought we were going to wipe the floor with them based on the first half hour. I phoned my Dad at half time and confidently said if we carried on in the same vein they would crack. But we didn't - it went back to hoofing down the channels, losing duels, giving the ball away as soon as we won it back.
I don't like the three at the back. It only takes one if the centre backs to be beaten and our whole back line is stretched. Playing such a high line without much pace at the back? Asking for it. Murray reckons the data shows we're one of the best sides in the league defensively? Evidence of one's eyes suggests otherwise.
I do agree with Murray that there were lots of positive signs. Kandola and Spokes ran the show in midfield first half. Willoughby played well. Adigun had a decent first hour but wilted later on - the second goal doesn't happen if he doesn't get beaten so easily down our left.
You can see we are still frustratingly a work in progress. Tellingly, I don't think there's one Telford player that would have made it into our starting XI yesterday. But they were tactically smarter than us, and based on the second half we could have no complaints - Dibble had to make three or four very good saves or it could have been worse. We remain naive.
One thing no-one has mentioned was the stadium announcement second half. If one of the Burberry gang behind the goal did shout something homophobic at their keeper then that's really poor (as was the "We're Kiddy Harriers, well sing what we want" chant that followed). On a day Hereford's game got abandoned for racist abuse which could see them chucked out of the competition, we just don't need it.
Swansea said, “Tellingly, I don't think there's one Telford player that would have made it into our starting XI yesterday.”
I thought both their wide players had more than enough pace, skill and trickery to pass our defenders. Our set up and our focus on playing through the middle perhaps means that AM doesn’t see the need for players like them but I do.
I thought both their wide players had more than enough pace, skill and trickery to pass our defenders. Our set up and our focus on playing through the middle perhaps means that AM doesn’t see the need for players like them but I do.
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Telford have got their key moments up... Third goal looks offside to me (Williams ahead of the guy who releases the pass, only one defending player back). But I'm clutching at straws, the game was gone anyway.
The don't show our disallowed goal
But I can understand why Dibble was sent off watching the replay (didn't look as clear cut from behind the goal).
The don't show our disallowed goal
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Very similar to the Fylde performance apart from the chances created. Once they scored we wilted!
Social media is full of comment, some rational, some quite frankly, unwarranted.
AM seemed to watch a different game to the rest of us. I’m really disappointed that we are unable to solve the goal scoring issues. It’s been mentioned already, but in recent years, Jamma, Lolley, Marvin and Malbs arrived from levels below…and yes we were full time. Perhaps Mr Holdsworth needs to widen his net! Perhaps he has never heard of Newcastle Town.
Before the Phil Brown reunion game we need a morale boost against Buxton. Not an insipid 1-0 but something that gives the travelling fans a boost before the Peterborough game.
The incident with homophobic abuse, just like racism, is not welcome at KHFC. I hope the culprit is caught and banned.
Social media is full of comment, some rational, some quite frankly, unwarranted.
AM seemed to watch a different game to the rest of us. I’m really disappointed that we are unable to solve the goal scoring issues. It’s been mentioned already, but in recent years, Jamma, Lolley, Marvin and Malbs arrived from levels below…and yes we were full time. Perhaps Mr Holdsworth needs to widen his net! Perhaps he has never heard of Newcastle Town.
Before the Phil Brown reunion game we need a morale boost against Buxton. Not an insipid 1-0 but something that gives the travelling fans a boost before the Peterborough game.
The incident with homophobic abuse, just like racism, is not welcome at KHFC. I hope the culprit is caught and banned.
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Where are these highlights? Nothing on their YouTube page or on their website.Swansea Harrier wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 4:29 pm Telford have got their key moments up... Third goal looks offside to me (Williams ahead of the guy who releases the pass, only one defending player back). But I'm clutching at straws, the game was gone anyway.
The don't show our disallowed goal
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It's on their Facebook page Phil (hence why I found it hard to post a link).Phil wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 4:44 pmWhere are these highlights? Nothing on their YouTube page or on their website.Swansea Harrier wrote: Sun Sep 14, 2025 4:29 pm Telford have got their key moments up... Third goal looks offside to me (Williams ahead of the guy who releases the pass, only one defending player back). But I'm clutching at straws, the game was gone anyway.
The don't show our disallowed goal
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We lost most the quality at the end of last season Morrison, Brown, McNally, Richards, Kohyar, Worrall, Hemmings etc and these players have been replaced with good but sadly average players and I too would be amazed if this squad gets anywhere near promotion this season.Centreforeword wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:21 pm We completely lack quality, flair and initiative with little fire power up front.
I would be amazed if this squad gets anywhere near promotion this season.
We basically have two squads of players of equal ability and therefore it makes little difference in terms of selection - what is on the bench is no better or worse than the starting 11.
However, at long last one of our strikers actually scored yesterday - will the return of Mooney be the key to getting our forward line firing - maybe but for heaven sake that midfield looks lacking in most areas and the defence inspires little in the way of confidence or robustness.